Re: Naruto Manga Thread V1: [It's Over]

[LastBlues]

I'm betting on mind-> body transfer bullshit.

the tobi from Minato's age took over obito's dead body blah blah blah present day.

[Plue]

Tobi has the Rinnegan right? Maybe he just used Obito's body to mindfuck everyone like how that one dude used bodies from Jaraiya's past.

[CluelessNeko]

I sorry but I'm still mindfuck 7 hours later.

[NinjagoonAF]

so much plox



Taken form GameFaq

Plothole Number 1: Tobi’s Power Level (chapters 500-504).
There is no way Obito could turn into an alpha dog shinobi who mastered S/T phasing and teleportation within a 1-2 year time frame. At 15 years old? No way... There is also no way Obito would know how to extract the Kyuubi, hypnotize it, control it like a puppet, and then summon it wherever the hell he wants to. And all of this is supposed to have happened 1-2 years after Obito supposedly died? That’s just not feasible.

Plothole Number 2: Personality U-turn (chapter 241 page 19).
"Of course those in the ninja world who break the rules and regulations are called trash... but those who don’t care about their companions are even worse than trash." Will of Fire talk from Obito. It makes no sense for.
him
to suddenly manifest this unwavering vendetta against Konoha unless Tobi is just using Obito’s body as a vessel, in which case, Tobi isn’t really Obito anyway because his soul and spirit have nothing to do with it.

^^this is more plausible^^

Plothole Number 3: Kushina Quote (chapter 501 page 7).
"Do you have ANY idea how long I’ve waited for this moment?" It’s a complete contradiction for Obito to say something like that when, hypothetically, he wouldn’t have been alive long enough to make that type of comment because Obito would have been 15 years old if he fought Minato. Tobi has probably had to wait DECADES for the opportunity to extract the Kyuubi from its host.

Plothole Number 4: Kyuubi recognised Tobi (chapter 501 page .
The Kyuubi actually recognises Tobi and possibly knows who he is. If THAT doesn’t convince you, nothing will. The Kyuubi made a direct transfer from being sealed into Mito to being sealed into Kushina, so there is a fundamental contradiction for the Kyuubi to recognise anyone in the outside world when it was sealed for all that time. If the Kyuubi actually recognised Tobi, it means Tobi has to be someone who was alive during Hashirama/Madara’s generation.

Plothole Number 5: Tobi is too tall (chapter 503 page 9).
Tobi was shown to be adult sized when he fought Minato, chapter 503 page 5. But on page 9, Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Kurenai are all shown to be much shorter as they are going through adolescence. Obito would have been around that size and is therefore too short to be Tobi.

Plothole Number 6: Minato would’ve figured it out (chapter 500-504).
If Tobi was really Obito, then Minato would have figured it out when they were fighting each other. Obito was Minato’s own student and would have recognised his chakra, but he didn’t.

Plothole Number 7: This is HIS doing (chapter 560 page 2).
"This is HIS doing." That means Madara knows exactly who Tobi is, but there is no way Madara could have worked with Obito because Madara had died already. We know this because by the time Nagato gets Madara's Rinnegan from Tobi, Madara is officially dead - "I awakened these eyes shortly before my death." (chapter 560 page 15). This is important because Nagato is older than Minato, and Minato is older than Obito.

Plothole Number 8: Hashirama Comparison (chapter 462 page 14).
Tobi says to Naruto "I can see the first Hokage in you." To make that type of comparison Tobi must have known what Hashirama was like as a person. Problem is, Hashirama was dead before Obito was born.

Plothole Number 9: During Our Battle (chapter 512 page 9).
"This is something I grew from living tissue I stole from him during our battle." Kabuto already revealed the Madara coffin so there was no reason for Tobi to keep lying. So if Tobi actually had a fight with Hashirama there is no way he could be Obito

posted that in the comment section on manga here and these are the replies i got:

Visitor 307215

not reading all of this garbage but cant have plot holes in a unfinished manga.

Visitor 330495

i did read all of your "it may be a right-plots".. well 1st is, lest make it a bit complicated..from age issue (1st - 2nd - 3rd - 4th hokage) we saw that madara had lived one the same age with 1st hokage, and i can say that madara can only live from the 1st until the 3rd hokage max (age issue). so who is the person who summon kyubi and fight with the 4th? its probably obito rite? 4th has given kakashi gift as the same time as obito "died". then there's a period that we don't know for how long and maybe obito gotten his strength n turnside for vengeance? until we see that he back to konoha n fight the 4th right? anyway if itachi "coup d etat" is after those two incidence, it may have to be logic that he is truly obito.. (obito disappear, kakashi gift - the 4th vs obito - itachi coup d etat) and IF HE IS REALLY NOT OBITO, so why the creator made this flashback chapter? i dont think that he's just wasting time and chapter to make a flashback if obito wasnt the real obito.. i know that your plot can be rite, and i hope so, cause i still cant face it if obito turns into villain.. but lets face it if it is the old obito and he has changed.. its some life story dude.. the real world can be like that too :)

Visitor 330550

Well, it seems that there has to be some jutsu that can extend the life span of a human, and it also seems that Madara would be able to find/create it (because the first generation of ninja is so strong). And as to this line: "IF HE IS REALLY NOT OBITO, so why the creator made this flashback chapter?" Never mind that part... why would he have the bit at the end where it is openly stated that he is Obito?

[Guest]

Tobi has the Rinnegan right? Maybe he just used Obito's body to mindfuck everyone like how that one dude used bodies from Jaraiya's past.

Tobi took that from Nagato so that was explained...but this makes no sense. There is no way Obito can go from a chump to THAT in two years. Not even Naruto or Sasuke learned that fast.

Kishi you better start explaining...

[NinjagoonAF]

I found this on Facebook

Tobi is Obito.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c599/
Obito gave his eye to Kakashi and they were told to run, leaving Obito to die.
Obito passed out.
Obito was saved by Madara Uchiha at The Battle of Kannabi Bridge.
After Obito woke up, Madara had already attended to his wounds, his eye sack, from which his eye to Kakashi was torn out, is shown to be sewn, and his right eye intact, although his right side of the face seems to be bruised a lot.
Obito was burried in Konoha with an empty grave.
Madara became Obito's mentor.
Obito was brainwashed in the long run into accepting Madaras ideals.
Madara was the one to come up with Tsuki No Me.
Madara was the one to attack Konoha 16 years ago, wearing the mask.
Madara died after unlocking Rinnegan (is not explained how he done it) and overusing it by accident.
Obito became Tobi.
His mission was to carry out Madaras plan.
He was given all the information that Madara possessed, thus the extent of knowledge Tobi has about everything.
He was trained by Madara.
The analysis is from a Mangahere Fan.

I'm still calling bullshit

[CluelessNeko]

Let me see this link.

[Guest]

I found this on Facebook

Tobi is Obito.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c599/
Obito gave his eye to Kakashi and they were told to run, leaving Obito to die.
Obito passed out.
Obito was saved by Madara Uchiha at The Battle of Kannabi Bridge.
After Obito woke up, Madara had already attended to his wounds, his eye sack, from which his eye to Kakashi was torn out, is shown to be sewn, and his right eye intact, although his right side of the face seems to be bruised a lot.
Obito was burried in Konoha with an empty grave.
Madara became Obito's mentor.
Obito was brainwashed in the long run into accepting Madaras ideals.
Madara was the one to come up with Tsuki No Me.
Madara was the one to attack Konoha 16 years ago, wearing the mask.
Madara died after unlocking Rinnegan (is not explained how he done it) and overusing it by accident.
Obito became Tobi.
His mission was to carry out Madaras plan.
He was given all the information that Madara possessed, thus the extent of knowledge Tobi has about everything.
He was trained by Madara.
The analysis is from a Mangahere Fan.

I'm still calling bullshit

This is bullshit...Madara wasn't alive during that war to save him.

[CluelessNeko]

The only way I see it.That Ona fuse obito body with a Zetsu. Which had lock some hidden power that he had. Since every Uchiha Mangekyō Sharingan is different.This will explain why he was older.

He just want revenge for Rin death too.Since he had a thing for her, but you know who take his girl.Which this made him mad or something.Which he came up with the plan to create a world of peace or something. Which he create that group.So he can make it happen, or that's a clone of obito which will make sense.

[Snapalope]

I feel like it's some sort of body transfer technique not unlike Orochimaru's.

Inb4 impure world resurrection.

Also related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgxyL5zEAk

[Wolf92]

Did anyone order a large dish of rape with an extra side dish of rape? Cause there is no way they are getting out of this one

[CluelessNeko]

Did anyone order a large dish of rape with an extra side dish of rape? Cause there is no way they are getting out of this one

Yup

[KonohamaruHeaven]

Naruto 600

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/85051006/1

wasted flashback pages

[Snapalope]

Madara beat the Kages then. Still that's a load of crap with the fact he can use Impure World Resurrection on himself. Immortal dickhole with infinite chakra.

Sasuke will probably kill Obito.

[PT-Desu]

So the only person that can rival Madaras chakra lvls is Naruto, still Narutos isn't unlimited.
Maybe it's about time Sasuke show up and side with Naruto ?

[Guest]

It would be nice for Sasuke to show up and team up, but I doubt it.

God could Obito's reasoning be any more cliche?

[Snapalope]

It would be nice for Sasuke to show up and team up, but I doubt it.

God could Obito's reasoning be any more cliche?

Kishi is opening up a whole new can of bullshit he borrows from Kubo

[Eri]

he made it sound cliche cuz thats not the real reason. it's zetsu. he was able to make copies of soo many ninjas. the black zetsu must do something like this but better... so naruto cant sense him.

[KonohamaruHeaven]

Nothing..Flashback...Madara crashes like a out of control plane at a air show. Thats about it.

[CluelessNeko]

You now you fuck.When some one Impure World Resurrection on himself.
Sasgay better come middle no wear.
I'm sorry for the long wait, but i was getting more justsu.

[Snapalope]

I went downstairs in my building in order to finish some charts for my Econ course on the computer. Some girl sits down net to me and calls her friend and starts going on about how Tobi is Obito and how both of them didn't see it coming and the fact that his motives are wrong. They later got around to talking about how one of them doesn't read Bleach anymore because "they already tied up all the ends" which is extremely wrong.

As far as Naruto is concerned, Obito being Tobi was fairly predictable even if you didn't expect it to be him in the end and his motives cliche as hell.

[Plue]

Were the girls hot?

[NinjagoonAF]

Nothing..Flashback...Madara crashes like a out of control plane at a air show. Thats about it.

I think i just found you on facebook...

[KonohamaruHeaven]

Nothing..Flashback...Madara crashes like a out of control plane at a air show. Thats about it.

I think i just found you on facebook...

seems so

[Snapalope]

Were the girls hot?

No

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