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Post by ZoomTranquilty on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:09 am

When you break down anime today, you’ll find that most have a very similar premise:
- Slice of life
- Supernatural
- SoL/Supernatural
- School life
- Reference comedy
- Gag
- Romance
- Tragedy
- Overly divulging fanservice
As much as each category has its own charm and flair, is this really the best terrain anime can traverse? I guess I can say that most of the shows today is lacking originality and depth and is slowly becoming stale and uninteresting.

There are very few shows that stands out or is aboriginal.

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I'm very bad at writing very long posts because halfway my brain will blank. If this thread garners enough attention, I'll write better and be more analytical. I promise.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by BrandonBandicoot on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:11 am

The best answer I can give you is:

That's what sells, that's what will be made. New ideas are too risky.

That's the reason you see a lack of variation in damn near every medium of entertainment actually. Games, music, movies, etc.

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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by ZoomTranquilty on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:17 am

Yes, and it's that type of marketing which is killing the creativity.

I don't want a movie with lots of guns and explosion with little to no plot. I want something to which I can actually enjoy.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by Biokinetica on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:18 am

BrandonBandicoot wrote:The best answer I can give you is:

That's what sells, that's what will be made. New ideas are too risky.

That's the reason you see a lack of variation in damn near every medium of entertainment actually. Games, music, movies, etc.
This is the main reason. What you listed is what sells. The otaku rule this market with an iron fist.



If it doesn't sell one of these, it's tough to do.

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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by ZoomTranquilty on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:22 am

If that's what its all about then I don't want to be considered an anime fan. Already do I have a tough time finding a good anime. It's hard to find one when all on the market is high school comedies and fanservice
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Post by Biokinetica on Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:42 am

Not saying that's what it's all about. This is just what's most popular due to swag sales. Anime has much more to offer in the way storylines, but you have to look for them. They won't be thrown at you like schoolgirl crap.

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Post by Rex on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:12 pm

ZoomTranquilty wrote:Yes, and it's that type of marketing which is killing the creativity.

I don't want a movie with lots of guns and explosion with little to no plot. I want something to which I can actually enjoy.
I take it you didn't like The Expendables?
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Post by shintai88 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:31 pm

Slice of life comedy is fine for me, I actually look forward to things that make me laugh or cry.

Things Like the Life of High School boys, is pretty funny, Gintama is a no brainer, the show is just on a different level.

But I do see what you mean, there aren't alot of shows that capture my attention as much. Alot seems to just fan service. Though there are still the gems like Fate/zero season 2 to look forward to.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by Keck282 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:40 pm

The problem with anime is too much moe and fanservice shows. That is the problem. The reason is those are the shows that profit the most, and that is unfortunate. I want more thought provoking shows that focus on labor. Things similar to Patlabor and Planetes. A show that follows the ins and outs of how a job is done. Those shows are great. That and some good space anime.
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Post by NoblePhantasm on Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:30 pm

We have successfully established that, in fact, anime lack originality nowadays. Excellent.
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Post by sex offender on Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:36 am

as long there's more lolis, i don't mind it :p
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by RavenDW on Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:34 am

A couple of decades anime was filled with 'gritty' (kinda) realistic shows and there was a lot of sci-fi. Now there's a lot of SoL. Every medium ever goes through phases in the same way that fashion has always gone through trends. Gaming used to have a boatload of Street Fighter II clones and other fighters/beat 'em ups. Now it has an assload of shooters. Entertainment mediums have always been like this and will always been like this.

You must also resign yourself to the inevitability of you getting older with everything becoming increasingly familiar, repetetive and less engaging.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by Keck282 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:21 am

But I don't ever want to grow up!
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by RavenDW on Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:49 pm

Keck282 wrote:But I don't ever want to grow up!

You are already old.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by Keck282 on Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:12 am

I know. I just wish the resurgence of things that aren't full of moe lolis would happen faster. I want some more shows like Patlabor and Slayers.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by Blicer on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:46 am

Slice of life is my favorite genre... Although I really am sick of the school setting and constant moe...
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by GhostCell on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:50 am

Blicer wrote:Slice of life is my favorite genre... Although I really am sick of the school setting and constant moe...
Yeah I get what you mean. It would be so refreshing for anime not be centered around a school setting. It just doesn't fit with me as I've gotten older. I could understand if a little bit since a show may be aimed at younger viewers which are in high school middle school but still that's no excuse for not using some imagination when it comes to the setting.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by Keck282 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:21 am

Blicer wrote:Slice of life is my favorite genre... Although I really am sick of the school setting and constant moe...
I like slice of life as well, probably why I like Patlabor (yeah it has mechs, but most of the dynamic is between the characters' daily lives).
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Post by RavenDW on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:32 pm

Keck282 wrote:I like slice of life as well, probably why I like Patlabor (yeah it has mechs, but most of the dynamic is between the characters' daily lives).
Patlabor has the advantage of being one of the best shows ever written with a cast of entertaining and engaging characters.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by BrandonBandicoot on Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:09 am

Gotta move that thread up!

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Post by jayden63 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:04 pm

I know that anime has an its all been done before, but thats the truth of the matter when dealing with entertainment. It has all been done before.

How many original Hollywood movies have you seen lately? Most are sequals to something already done, slapstick slice of life comedies. But I can pretty much say anything new I've already seen in the past 10 years plot, character, and story wise.

However, I feel that each season, if your picky you can find something enjoyable to watch.

None Highschool action - Tiger and bunny, Fate/Zero, Last Exile - Fam fam
Supernatural/otherworld - Zombie desu Ka, Another, Blood-C , C the money of soul and possibility control.
Mech - Aquarion EVO (I'm sure there are others but I don't really watch them)

Yeah there are a lot of simular stuff out there, and a whole bunch more that cross genera, but I think there is always something that can be found that at least is different enough from anything you saw last season to keep you entertained.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by Keck282 on Wed May 02, 2012 6:55 am

Blood-C sucks balls compared to the other Blood shows and the pacing is slow as shit.

I am glad that there is a slice of life space show. Got to watch Space Bros (been really busy with studying for midterms).
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by jayden63 on Wed May 02, 2012 11:07 pm

I dropped blood-C as well. Found it boring and couldn't get into the characters. But I'm sure there are others who really enjoyed it.

I'm just glad for the variety, but clearly not everything is going to be a winner.
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by Plue on Fri May 04, 2012 8:42 am

Most shows being aired are probably original. It's not about what you use, but how you use it. You list "reference comedy" as if a show being of the reference comedy genre doesn't make it original. Just look at sitcoms which are a sub-genre of comedy. Are Seinfeld, Arrested Development, & It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia unoriginal because Three's Company predates them?
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Re: Anime and the state that is in

Post by Keck282 on Fri May 04, 2012 12:46 pm

Plue wrote:Most shows being aired are probably original. It's not about what you use, but how you use it. You list "reference comedy" as if a show being of the reference comedy genre doesn't make it original. Just look at sitcoms which are a sub-genre of comedy. Are Seinfeld, Arrested Development, & It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia unoriginal because Three's Company predates them?
LOL no. Most shows being aired currently are adaptations of something. There is a small percentage of probably maybe 10% that are original every season.
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